*** Woops! I just checked again and now I can get to it! Argh! Maybe there was some intermittent glitch at fortunecity. But when I tried earlier today I did get the error. Oh well, I am glad to see it is still up! *** Definitely fortunecity's problem; when I tried it shortly after your post, Walter, not only was the page not there, but as I deleted qualifiers on the URL from right to left, got 404 right up to, but not including ;->= , www.fortunecity.com. The_Beast -Douglas J. Evans, curmudgeon One World, one Web, one Program - Microsoft promotional ad Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Fuhrer - Adolf Hitler