While going over the scripts to Valley of White Silver and watching it over and over again doing script edits and timing for fansubs I made a few observations that might become an interesting discussion. ** SPOILER WARNING ** I talk, in detail, about several scenes of the Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu Gaiden "Valley of White Silver" arc. If you have not seen it and you'd rather not be spoiled - skip this message now. One comment that I'll make right off the bat is that I wish Tokuma hadn't been working so hard trying to make this accessible to new viewers. There are so many Sieg-Reinhard-Annerose "when we were younger" flashbacks that it gets old pretty fast. Also, as with most prequels, any threats to the characters we are already familiar with do not carry the same dramatic impact as an 'in the present' story would. Also the fact that this is a fairly cliched story with way too much exposition on the part of the ne'er-do-wells that what we have here is little more than a character study. (I think after I am finished with the fansub of the 4 episode arc I will reedit it as a movie with some of the more obvious stuff cut. Fear not, no footage from other anime series will appear ;)) What is somewhat interesting is Siegfried Kircheis' internal dialogue during this -- in and out of flashback sequences puts a bit of a different spin on his character and his relationships with Reinhard and Annerose. 1) It's implied - rather bluntly and repeatedly - that Siegfried perhaps became good chums with Reinhard solely to pursue Annerose as a love interest. 2) It's also implied during an internal monologue that Siegfried will fight with Reinhard... "for now". As if to say, I'll be your ally until Annerose returns my love for her. So is Siegfried just an opportunist? Or perhaps some of his friendship with Reinhard is genuine but much of his sacrificial nature is to prove himself to Annerose. Or perhaps the heavy handidness of the Siegfried-Reinhard-Annerose relationship is an effort by Tokuma to dispel the Yaoi fanfic/fan artwork? -- Lee Thompson shadow@nwlink.com ICQ: 19508091