To take a break form the Pearl Harbor debate and get a little more back on-topic while still retaining the "LoGH in real history" theme, here is a very interesting historical reference which may serve as the basis for some of the characterization of everyone's favorite red-headed hothead on Reinhard's staff, Fritz Bittenfeld. Forwarded by my buddy, LoGH fan and history buff, Robert Fenelon (whom I have unsuccessfully urged to join this list several times...) NOTE: Some spoilers for episode 15, "Battle at Amlitzer Starzone" follow... - - - - - - - RE: Bitenfeld, Black Lancers, + Black Cuirassiers at battle of Breitenfeld After watching LoGH a decade or so ago, I habitually mispronounced the name of the red-haired, impulsive commander of the Imperial Black Lancer Fleet. Instead of "Bittenfeld" I used to mistakenly call him "Breitenfeld" (After one of the most famous battle of the Thirty Year's War). I was recently reminded of this slip of the tongue whilst reading an alternate-history SF novel set during that most horrible of religious wars, "1632" written by Eric Flint (Co-author of the popular "Belisarius" series of alternate history SF novels, and a first contact novel titled "Mother of Demons.") RE: LoGH... Remember Bittenfeld's actions in the battle at the end of the Alliance's failed invasion of Imperial Space - the one where Reinhard's forces had Yang's back to a star? (With Background music from Dvorak's New World Symphony.) Bitenfeld thought he saw a weakness in Yang's lines. Without calling his boss, Bittenfeld abandoned Reinhard's battle plan and attacked, moving his forces out of position...which allowed Yang an opening to escape (Using a clever variant of Reinhard's tactic on Planet Legmiza in the pilot film). I have spotted an incident in history which just might have been an inspiration not only for that phase of that battle, but might have also inspired that impulsive Admiral's name. Here goes... A possible tie-in `tween LoGH and history occurred while reading Eric Flint's alternate-history novel, "1632". The book contains a description of the battle of Breitenfeld - a major turning point in World History - where Swedish King Gustavus Adolphus's victory over Count Tilly's Bohemian forces saved the Protestant cause in Europe from the Hapsburg Emperor's Edict of Restitution and the tender mercies of the Holy Office of the Inquisition. One of the reasons Count Tilly lost the battle of Breitenfeld was that the impulsive commander of the elite "Black Cuirassiers" cavalry unit precieved a weakness in the Swedish lines and (without consulting his boss) ordered a cavalry charge, ignoring Tilly's battle plan. This left Tilly's left flank exposed and that is precisely the opening Gustav II Adolf exploited. The Swedish King's cavalry charge split the Imperial Army, captured its artillery and turned those cannons upon their own troops. This reminds me of the climax of the Battle of Amlitzer in LoGH, where the "Black Lancers" admiral Bittenfeld diverged from Reinhard's plan to attack Yang, giving "Miracle Yang" the opening he needed to escape the siege. - Robert Fenelon PS: - The Swedes went on to win the battle of Breitenfeld which is now commemorated by a statue of the "Lion of the North" bearing an inscription; "FREEDOM OF BELIEF FOR THE WHOLE WORLD". PPS: - A few generations after Gustavus Adolphus, Sweden produced another brilliant young warrior king who might have made an excellent anime character, Charles XII, the "Swedish Thunderbolt", the main adversary of Russia's Tsar Peter(The Great) Romanoff. - Charles XII's army was savaged by an exceptionally brutal Russian winter (funny how they always seem to coincide with foreign invasions - wonder if the god of Winter dwells in Russia and disapproves of foreign invaders?), and the remnants were crushed at the battle of Poltava. The wounded Swedish monarch was carried into the nearby Ottoman Empire where that Christian king became a prisoner of the Islamic Sultan. Charles XII emerged as the third most powerful man in the Empire, and constantly tried to get the Turks to declare war on Russia. He was resented by the Grand Vizier and some Imperial Generals, who plotted against him. Kind of reminded me a bit of Desslok of Gamilon at the court of the Comet Empire with Princess Invidia and Generals Dyre and Gorse conspiring against Leader D. Dat's all for now. Robert Fenelon