There, there, Victor. Nothing in what you said suggested to me that you are a fanatic, though, if you wish to claim yourself to be so, I'll defend to the death your right to do so. Save me from rabid anti-ST, B5, EFC, Andromeda, et. al. fanatics, though, and their knee-jerk reactions. Still, they're right, LoGH is not, nor ever will be, ST, which pleases me greatly. I'm an IDIC kind of guy. ;->= The_Beast -Douglas J. Evans, curmudgeon One World, one Web, one Program - Microsoft promotional ad Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Fuhrer - Adolf Hitler