> S > P > O > I > L > E > R > > W > A > R > N > I > N > G > > F > O > R > > F > I > R > S > T > > S > E > A > S > O > N > > I'll have to look again at where the scenes are placed, but I find it a little weird to be worried about a spoiler so early in the series. Still, better safe... As for the topic, I must admit pity for those who find it difficult to imagine this. I remember falling instantly in love with an older woman(ok, 'girl') at age 6. Chivalric love, admittedly, and also not the long devotion that Sieg showed. However, not a stretch as far as I was concerned. One point: my own 'precocious' feelings were followed by a certain backwardness in later years. Kircheis' later dependent personality may well be uncomfortably understood by me. Not that one cannot grow out of it. While most folks wonder, including most of the characters in series, how the brat would have faired had he had Seig's continued presence, I've been wondering how Seig would grow should he feel unable to alter Lohengram's 'fall towards the dark side.' I remember 'Marius'... The_Beast -Douglas J. Evans, curmudgeon One World, one Web, one Program - Microsoft promotional ad Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Fuhrer - Adolf Hitler