Re: [LoGH] Number of ships in LoGH
Justin Ho (iluvatar45@hotmail.com)
Tue, 28 Nov 2000 14:31:08 +0800
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All estimates are for combat and support ships combined.
Sources were from Season 1 and 2 since the availability of new construction
renders data from Season 3 less than reliable for computing initial strength
at beginning of Season 1.
Empire Estimate:
Noble Levies 150,000 ships
(Littenheim's little escapade was said to have cost the nobles 1/3 of their
forces)
Regular Navy 207,000
(Report on Imperial armada in Season 2 factoring in Fortress vs. Fortress
numbers and Ragnarok phase 1)
Total: 357,000 ships
(edge up if factoring in any unengaged and otherwise unmentioned garrison
forces)
Alliance Estimate:
12 Fleets (at avg. 13,000 each) 156,000
(since Yang's original 6400 is called "half a fleet")
Independent squadrons 12,000
(from numbers in Fortress vs Fortress battle and Rantemario)
Total: 168,000
(edge up likewise if factoring in unmentioned garrison forces)
Side note: Seeing as how a normal Imperial High Admiral's command ranges
from 36,000 to 40,000, Reinhard was given a decidedly understrength force
for Astate.
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From: "Michael Mikulis"
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Subject: Re: [LoGH] Number of ships in LoGH
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 03:26:36
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>If you're refering to the number of ships at Astarte, I believe Reinhard's
>fleet numbered 20,000 ships. They faced three Alliance fleets of about
>10,000-15,000 ships each. The exact figures should be somewhere in the
>dialogue of that first episode.
>***
>
>Whoops, my recollection was 20,000 in each of the FFP separate fleets, with
>the Brat's twice as large as any.
Rhienhard had 20,000 ships at Astarte. The alliance had three fleets for a total of 40,000 ships. According to the second movie, the fleet directly ahead of Rhienhard had 12,000 ships, the fleet with Jean Rober had 13,000 ships, and the fleet with Yang Wenli had 15,000 ships (Jean Rober and Yang Wenli weren't the commanders of those fleets, just the most significant character in each one).
The TV series implied that each of the three fleets had 13,000 ships and said that Rheinhard was outnumbered 2 to 1.
As for totals: I'd estimate the FPA fleet at 135,000-160,000 and the Imperial fleet at 250,000-320,000 ships after the battle of Astarte. It's easier to estimate the alliance since they end up scraping for more ships. This is also after the Alliance took severe losses in two battles. Also, the series rarely states how many ships are in one of Rheinhard's suburdinate's fleets while Alliance fleets consistently have around 13,000 ships. The Imperial numbers also include any noble "levies".
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