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Hank Wong (hankwong@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU)
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Subject: Comment on the Gin4 ex game!
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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 00:25:31 -0800
From: Huang Gang <kongwong@hotmail.com>
Reply-To: kongwong@hotmail.com

I am furious after trying again and again to command successfully for a
battle!  However, I failed at the worst way.

In Gin3, the user could have control over every thing, the movement of
every fleet, the firing of the main gun on the fortress, and how many
can be spend on what!  Now, the player can't control anything except his
own fleet and his commarde are so incompetent it almost seem like you
against the world!

I cannot understand, why my friendly fleets have to turn around infront
of the enemy fire line?  Why my fortress fire at me!  W

And there are terriable terriable computation of damage you inflict on
the enemy.  
In Gin3, if you caught some at the side, they are gonna suffer a great
deal, if you got someone's back, they are dead meat.  Once, I had 4000
cruisers fire missles at 4000 enemy cruisers at their back.  Result,
3000 ships sanked!  Another time, a full carrier unit caught a full
enemy battle ship unit from behind and there were only one battle ship
left in the attack!
In Gin4, 2000 Destroyer fire at the behind of 1000 Battleship, and the
result, there are less than 50 battleships sank!  I mean, my missles are
gonna run out in 4 rounds, and by that rate, I won't even destroy an
enemy unit even when I am sneaking on him.  What about frontal attacks?
The battle will never end!
My scouts, they are laughable!  Three fleet coming to attack the
Iserlohn fortress, and in zero distance, the scouts discover the first
two and completely forget about the 3rd one.  And Iserlohn didn't
discover it until it made its attack.  Now I suppose it went invisible
but c'mon!  
The worst part is the movement.  I want my fleet just shift to the left
just a bit and somehow it managed to change its direction and made a
turnabout.  Exposing my repair and cargo units to enemy's mercy!
The number of ships in one unit may have been changed to meet Reality,
but the fire power had been reduced completely.  The manuver is almost
impossible!  And while you can probably win easily in a one on one
situation, just catch the other fleet's tail and it is at your mercy,
you are damnned in a big battle with your friendly fleets come in your
for fun.  Carriers are almost obsolete, since the single-seated fighters
are useless unless your fleet is heavily engaged and they don't inflict
huge damage like they used to make!

Oh, my god!  Can someone upload GIn3, so everybody can download it for
comparison!  It is smaller, and it is more fun to play with.