Re: ANOTHER BUNCH OF SPOILERS!!! (PRE-WESTERLAND)
Michael Mikulis (mmikulis@hotmail.com)
Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:01:42 PDT
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>>Michael Mikulis wrote:
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>> > Westerland:
>> > Allowing Westerland to be nuked, saved lives since less people died in
>>the war.> >
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>Erm, I haven't quite read that far (although I do follow the scripts and
>translations on the Internet) but how do you figure that allowing
>Westerland
>to be _nuked_ saved lives?
With the Westerland massacre, the nobles lost every other planet they held
and were desperate enough to charage out of Iserlohn to die. There are more
people in Reinhard's fleet than the population of Westerland. If the
massacre hadn't happened, the nobles would have managed to hold on.
Reinhard would have been stuck trying to take Geirsburg with his supply
lines being exhausted.
>> > The real reason the massacre was allowed to happen is that Oberstein
>>wanted it to happen. Oberstein stated his goal quite succintly in episode
>>8, he hated the nobles. Allowing the nobles to destroy Westerland did
>>more
>>than merely defeat the nobles, it completely ruined them.
>> >
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>Good point. Talking about which, could anyone confirm why does Oberstein
>hate the nobles so much? (since the anime obviously deviates from the
>manga,
>and I'm not going to get the anime til X-mas...)
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>Pre-Westerland spoiler -- although if you are following this thread, you
>probably know all about this already. :)
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>From the manga, Oberstein was one of the commanders under the admiral who'd
>managed to lose the "undefeatable" Iserlorn fortress to the Alliance. The
>Empire troops returned to Odin in shame and I was under the impression that
>Oberstein was going to be scapegoat.
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>Reinhard stepped in and got him relatively scot-free. Was this the reason
>for his distaste for the nobles? And why he followed Reinhard?
This is also true in the anime. Reinhard helps Oberstein because Oberstein
tells Reinhard that he hates the nobles and the Goldenbaum dynasty must
fall. Oberstein also impresses Reinhard because he is able to do things
Kircheis isn't capable of (like shooting an unarmed person which isn't a
threat). Oberstein is assigned to handle court intrigue for Reinhard and
helps save Annerose's life.
Oberstein also demonstates his cybernetic eye when he announces his hatred
of the nobles. Earlier in episode 4, Oberstein says that in Rudolph's time
he would have been disposed of under the Superior Genetics Law for his
blindness. I think that is why Oberstein hates the nobles because the
founder of the Galactic Empire passed laws which would have killed Oberstein
if Oberstein had been alive then.
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