RE: [LoGH] Pearl Harbor (off-topic about war movies)
Graeme Lennon (graeme@balefire.net)
Sat, 26 May 2001 19:44:15 -0400 (EDT)
> Yep, I agree. Pearl Harbor messed up the history, and portrayed Japanese
> Americans as spies for the Japanese government, which is an foul act to
> justify what U.S. did during WWII - sending thousands of innocent Japanese
> Americans to desert concerntraition camps. Plus, the movie made it seem
> like U.S. fend off the assualt. In reality, the Japanese carrier air group
> cleaned the island before the Americans had a chance to defend themselves.
> Summing up: some hardheads want to believe that U.S. didn't lose so badly in
> that attack, and military brass want to save face and regain some pride from
> it... end result? Hollywood made Pearl Harbor to satisfy their need.
Feh. Enough with the conspiracy theory. Hollywood has no interest in
revisionist history per se. Hollywood made Pearl Harbour to make money.
That's it.
Remember also that this was brought to you by the team that produced
Armageddon.
Very few people with any concept of history are going to take this movie
seriously. Those that do should be blamed on the failure of the American
education system, not Hollywood.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-logh@lists.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
> [mailto:owner-logh@lists.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU]On Behalf Of Sampo Haarlaa
> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 11:54 PM
> To: logh@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
> Subject: Re: [LoGH] Pearl Harbor (off-topic about war movies)
>
>
>
>
> Hello.
>
> My intention was to gather a group of friends when it comes here, make some
> japanese banners (or some other suitable items) and go to a premiere and
> scream things like Tora! Tora! Tora! as a protest for hollywood filmmakers
> (for raping history), but since I will leave to japan for three weeks next
> saturday I won't be able to do it.
>
> Granted, I should not rate a movie until I have seen one, but since
> Bruckenhaimer/Bay combination has not produced anything even barely
> watchable, I believe their capabilities are not up to task of this story*
>
> By the way, I could dig up a novel (I think it was called 'Vietnam', but I
> don't remember it author right now) about a hollywood screenwriter who
> writes a succesful Vietnam trilogy which shows that USA kicked butt,
> producer of course demanded it. (Who would like to see a movie where we
> lose! I want a victory parade and a marching band!).
>
> This starts a boom where all history is rewritten by hollywood (americans
> win Battle of Britain, etc) and in the end, even the veterans of the war
> believe that americans did it all.
>
> I think I will stick to other, better movies like Tora! Tora! Tora!, Cross
> of Iron, Thin Red Line (Terrence Malick), Stalingrad or Tuntematon Sotilas.
>
> btw, I believe Saving Private Ryan is one of worst movies ever made.
>
> Sampo Haarlaa
>
>
> >From: "Theo Ching"
> >Reply-To: logh@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
> >To: "LoGH"
> >Subject: [LoGH] Pearl Harbor
> >Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 20:34:12 -0700
> >
> >Hi all!
> >
> > Caught Pearl Harbor today at the noon matinee ($6 is still quite dear).
> >It was pretty good, basically like Titanic with all the people sliding off
> >sinking ships & the Macross Plus-style love triangle. ;-) Good CG eyecandy
> >& explosions. Nice Battle of Britain dogfights included as a bonus.
> >Popcorn was decent. ^_^
> >
> > One weird quibble was seeing Dan Aykroyd as this Washington intelligence
> >analyst. I keep seeing him as the bumbling, over-technical federal
> >employee in "Spies Like Us." ^^'
> >
> > The only thing that really reminded me of LoGH was this scene where one
> >of the Japanese officers addressed Admiral Nagumo as "shireikan" (means
> >"commander" I think), since I constantly hear them say that in LoGH. ;-)
> >
> > Theo
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