RE: Warning Jennifer Califf [spoilers]

Sledge Hammer! (hankwong@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU)
Tue, 15 Jul 1997 14:22:04 -0700 (PDT) 

On Tue, 15 Jul 1997, James Baker wrote:

> At 11.51 1997-07-15 -0500, Califf, Jennifer wrote:
> 
> >Oberstein, in the anime at least, did jump in front of Reinhart at the
> >last second.  But anyway, wasn't it by Oberstein's orders that Kircheis
> >had to turn over his gun to security before that whole fiasco?  Maybe if
> 
> Didn't Oberstein talk Reinhard into giving that order? 

I think Oberstein was left in charge of the security details.
When Kircheis was about to enter the room, the guard asked him to turn
over his weapon. Kircheis said something like "well, I'm Siegfried
Kircheis." The guard was flustered and said okay go on ahead, but being
the nice guy he was, Kircheis insisted on turning his weapon in.

> >the staff had had their weapons, they could've taken him out before he
> >could've pulled the trigger.  Certainly, if Kirchies had time to grab

Weren't there guards in the room? Certainly they could have done
somethings.

> >him, there would have been time to fire.  Although I must say that the
> >reaction time of everyone else was truly pathetic in that situation.  (I

> So how long time did it take in the anime for Kircheis to fight Ansbach
> before Ansbach fired that shot?

It was amazing how the other Admirals just stood and watched. If even one
or two of them had stepped in to help Kircheis, they would have been able
to overpower Ansbach. It wasn't like there wasn't time either- Kircheis
struggled with Ansbach for about ~5 seconds.

My impression was that the other Admirals were not especially eager to
help Kircheis, due to jealousy over his close relationship with
Lord Reinhard. This may have explained why nobody stepped forward to help
him.

> >was yelling at the screen, "How long does he have to fight with this guy
> >and lie there bleeding on the ground before someone tries to help him.
> >A HANDKERCHIEF!?  PATHETIC!!  FOR GOD'S SAKE, APPLY DIRECT PRESSURE!!!
> >IDIOTS!! HOW COULD YOU BE IN THE MILITARY AND NOT KNOW BASIC FIRST
> >AID!!!!!!!!!!)  However, because of that order I hold Oberstein
> >personally responsible for Kircheis' death.

I don't think even proper first aid would have helped Kircheis,
considering where he was shot.


-Hank
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