Re: [LoGH] possible spoiler warning?
xerxes@pacific.net.hk
Fri, 29 Sep 2000 01:49:19 +0800
Mittermeyer's flagship must be called "Waerewolf"
instead of "Beowulf". In the novel, it is the only
flagship whose name is given in kanji (All other
kanji names are inventions in the anime. The author
never named Lutz's or Ulanf's flagships in the novel.
Forget Salamander or Bang-Goo and the small kanji characters in the
titles.), so there is no possibility
of the author's making any transliteration mistake.
Now I do not speak any Japanese except for a few
hellos and good-byes. But I have seen these 2
kanji characters ("man"-or-"person" and "wolf" as
mentioned by Hank Wong) combined in the same order
in other works. Judging from their content, that
combination cannot mean anything other than "werewolf".
The reason you heard something like "Beowulf" in the
LoGH panel is that the sound "we" was substituted
by the sound "be". In the Japanese language, the
sounds "we"/"ve" and "wi"/"vi" are missing. When
adopting a foreign word with "we"/"ve" and "wi"/"vi"
sounds, these sounds are substitiuted by Japanese
"be" and "bi". So "Waerewolf" or "werewolf" becomes
"be-i-o-wa-ru-fu" when transliterated, which sounds
like "Beowulf". Other examples are "vitamin" and
"elevator". In Japanese they sound like "BI-ta-mi-n"
and "e-re-BE-ta".
This rule does not apply to proper nouns where the
sounds "we"/"ve" and "wi"/"vi" are denoted by the
"takuon"(?) of the letter "u" combined with "e" or
"i". I do not know what these sound like but you
can find examples in "Westland" (episode no. 23)
and "Westpfale" (episodes no. 1 & 9).
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Xerxes J.
At 07:19 AM 2000/9/13 -0700, "Lance Gemmell"
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> Well in the episodes that I seen at AX in the LoGH pannel. I can not
>remember if they actually called Mitermeyer Beowolf, if it was his ship or
>if they refered to him as his nic name and stated it as Beowolf, but they
>did in some respect associate the name Beowolf with Mittermeyer. As you
>previously stated it was probebly the ship, however When I watched them I
>thought that they were refering to him as if it was his name. Also in the
>Episodes that where shown at Sakura-con last year, the same referance was
>made. I beleave those episodes were 44-46 or 44-48, 50-52? I might be wrong
>you know how human memory is. I can look at the first 42 episodes with
>attached movies, but those other ones, well, um......I have only had the
>plesure of watching them at the prospective conventions. I do hope that
>those days will soon come to an end however.
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>Hank since you were at both pannels maybe you can bring light to this
>subject. Also I think you might be the only one that has the video to check
>for sure what was actually said or stated. What were they refering to in the
>two showings the one at AX and last year at Sakura-con when they mentioned
>Beowolf?
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>Sorry for being a pest. Also if you don't have the time to answer this kind
>of trivia I understand. This is not the first time I wondered about the
>change though.
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>Sincerely
>Lance Gemmell
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>>>From: "Lance Gemmell"
>>>To:
>>>Subject: Re: [LoGH] German Name Research Notes
>>>Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 06:39:27 -0700
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>>> I am not sure. Well I might be completely wrong, but earlier in the
>>> series Mittermeyer was nic named the "Gale wolf" or in some cases
>Beowolf.
>>> The translators might have been makeing an mistake from the begining and
>>> mistook the nic name for the name of the ship or vice versa and not
>bothered
>>> to recheck their work. You know, "ok I have translated the ships name"
>then
>>> just suplement the name in all the instances they beleave the the ships
>name
>>> comes up. Thanks for finding the correction though. Werewolf, that is
>kind
>>> of a cool intimidating name for a ship.
>>>
>>> I just wanted to thank everyone on the list that has helped promote this
>>> series. I think you are all doind a great job.
>>>
>>> Lance Gemmell
